Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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http://www.merp.se/spell_lists.html er der en RM gruppe som har lavet egne versioner af nogle spells lists, bl.a. The Chains (With Hunter base list).

Jeg synes denne version af The Chains er bedre end den i RMC 7, mest fordi de har fixed problemet med den underlige range på Tether spells.

Hvad er holdningen til alternative versioner af spell lists? Det kunne fx også være lister fra andre RM versioner end RM2.

Der er også meget andet interessant på http://www.merp.se/
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Re: Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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Jeg er helt klart for at spell lists er "fyldt" op i alle levels!
Og hvis en spell er dum beskrevet altså som feks tether.. Så er det fint at man rettet den.
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jesper wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 22:43 Jeg er helt klart for at spell lists er "fyldt" op i alle levels!
Hvad er argumentet for det? Jeg synes det er fint med huller i spell lists, så længe de spells der er, er brugbare.
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Re: Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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jesper wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 22:48 http://www.merp.se/downloads/combat_stu ... neuver.pdf

Den her burde vi bruge :D
Jeg kan ikke helt gennemskue om den er bedre end vores nuværende regler. Men jeg er klar på at teste den.
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Re: Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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De har også en anden alternativ spell list til Witch Hunter. Det er vildt cool.

Depowering Ways (replaces The Aegis)
http://www.merp.se/spell_lists/Depowering_Ways.pdf
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Re: Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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Jeg synes godt vi kan bruge tid på at gå alle dem her igennem en dag og godkende nogen af dem til brug i SW.
http://www.merp.se/spell_lists.html

Reconstructed spell lists

Over the years that ICE produced material for Rolemaster 2nd Ed, the balance of spell lists have been corrupted (IMO). Also the Rolemaster spell system are not always fit for use in the Middle Earth. Therefor I have created a collection of reconstructed spell lists with the intention of making my game more fun.

Open Channeling
Barrier Law 2.1.1
Nature's Law 2.1.6
Concussion's Ways 2.1.2
Spell Defense 2.1.9
Detection Mastery 2.1.3
Warding Ways 2.1.11
Light's Way 2.1.4
Weather Ways 2.1.10
Lofty Movements 2.1.5

Closed Channeling
Dispelling Ways was moved from Closed Essence to Closed Channeling in order to balance the Realms. Familiar Law may be taken as a Closed Channeling spell list (used to be a Closed Essence).
Blood Law 2.2.1
Bone Law 2.2.2
Muscle Law 2.2.7
Nerve Law 2.2.8
Organ Law 2.2.9
Gerses Invocation 10.46
Lore 2.2.6
Calm Spirits 2.2.3

Ceremonies 3.51

Dispelling Ways 3.2.1

Familiar Law 3.52
Symbolic Ways 2.2.10
Bird's Ways 3.9.1

Open Essence
Delving Ways 3.1.1
Rune Mastery 3.1.8
Detecting Ways 3.1.2
Spell Wall 3.1.9
Essence Hand 3.1.4
Unbarring Ways 3.1.10
Essence of Light 3.1.11 New
Warding Ways 3.1.12 New
Elemental Shields 3.1.3

Closed Essence
Portals and Eagle Wings are marked as New, but shall be used as replacment for the Lofty Bridge which is unfit for Middle Earth. Gate Mastery contains the summoning of demons and seem unfit for good characters in Middle Earth. Dispelling Ways have been moved to Closed Channeling for balance.
Depowering Ways 3.2.11 New
Invisible Ways 3.2.3
Portals 3.2.52 New
Eagle Wings 3.2.51 New
Shield Mastery 3.2.7
Spirit Mastery 3.2.10

Open Mentalism
Anticipations 4.1.1
Delving 4.1.6
Attack Avoidance 4.1.2
Detections 4.1.7
Cloaking 4.1.4
Self Healing 4.1.9
Damage Resistance 4.1.5

Closed Mentalism
Liquid Manipulation, Gas Manipulation and Solid Manipulation have been removed from the set of Closed Mentalism as I feel they are to much Essence to be fit in the Realm of Mentalism. Instead the Lay Healer Base lists is now Closed Mentalism; range: Self. The Lay Healer profession is no longer used in my campaigns, but the new Feldsher profession may chose 4 of the Lay Healer lists as his Base Lists.

Blood Mastery 4.3.1
Mind Mastery 4.2.3
Movement 4.2.5
Mind's Door 4.2.4
Sustenance Mastery 4.2.11

Profession Base Lists

Arcane Bladerunes 3.11

Astrologer Far Voice
Astrologer Holy Vision
Astrologer Starlights
Astrologer Starsense
Astrologer Time's Bridge
Astrologer Way of the Voice

Bard Base Songs of Aman 4.5.1
Bard Base Enthrallments 4.5.2
Bard Base Lore Master 4.5.3

Beastmaster Base Master of the Hunt 10.13.1
Beastmaster Base Movement Enhancement 10.13

Channeler Base Channels 2.4.1
Channeler Base Protections 2.4.4
Channeler Base Repulsions 2.4.5
Channeler Base Summons 2.4.6

Druid Base Druidstaff 3.23
Druid Base Natures Movement/Senses 2.3.4

Evil Channeling Blights 2.8.8
Evil Channeling Dark Channels 2.8.2
Evil Channeling Eastern Curses 2.8.7
Evil Channeling Necromancy 2.8.5

Healer Base Blood Ways 2.7.1
Healer Base Bone Ways 2.7.2
Healer Base Cleansing 2.7.3
Healer Base Muscle Ways 2.7.4
Healer Base Organ Ways 2.7.5
Healer Base Surface Ways 2.7.6

Magician Base Earth Law 3.4.1
Magician Base Fire Law 3.4.2
Magician Base Ice Law 3.4.3
Magician Base Light Law 3.4.4
Magician Base Water Law 3.4.5
Magician Base Stone Law 3.4.7

Monk Base Body Reins 3.6.1
Monk Base Body Renewal 3.6.2
Monk Base Mind Over Matter 3.6.4
Monk Base Monk's Bridge 3.6.5

Montebanc Base Appraisals 8.14
Montebanc Base Beguiling Ways 8.13
Montebanc Base Disguise Mastery 8.12
Montebanc Base Mystic Escapes 8.11

Moon Mage Base Metamorphose 8.33
Moon Mage Base Moon Blade
Moon Mage Base Moon Madness 8.31
Moon Mage Base Moon Mastery 8.3

Mystic Base Desert Alterations 4.7.7

Nightblade Base Adrenal Focus 3.35

Paladin Base Exorcisms 2.5.2
Paladin Base Holy Arms 2.5.3
Paladin Base Holy Shields 2.5.5
Paladin Base Lay on Hands
Paladin Base Holy Warrior 3.41

Ranger Base Inner Walls 2.6.1
Ranger Base Moving Ways 2.6.2
Ranger Base Nature's Guises 2.6.3
Ranger Base Marksman's Way 2.6.7
Ranger Base Armsman's Way 2.6.8
Ranger Base Nature's Summons 2.6.4

Shaman Base Animal Ways 9.41
Shaman Base Spirit Summoning 9.42
Shaman Base Spirit Healing 9.43
Shaman Base Spirit Binding 9.44

Warrior Mage Weapon Enchantments 10.12.1

Witch Hunter Base The Chains 8.6.1
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Re: Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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Jeg kan godt lide hans spell list.. Men at en ranger på lvl 8 kan lave slaying crit på hans næste angreb.. ved ikke om det er at balancere :)

Og nogle af dem stikker ret voldsomt af.. Det bliver ihvertfald en setting hvor det kun kan betale sig at være spell user. Hvis man ikke bruger hans skill regler også for adrenal moves, frenzy osv.
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Re: Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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Den seneste udvikling på dette er at Joag har fået lov til at bruge de to alternative spell lists til Witch Hunter på merp.se:
The Chains (erstatter listen med samme navn i RMC7)
Depowering Ways (erstatter The Aegis)

Det skete på den måde at et lille GM-udpeget udvalg på to personer kiggede listerne igennem og fandt at de var balancerede og gav rigtig god mening til professionen, hvorefter GM godkendte dem.

Jeg foreslår en tilsvarende proces for andre karakterer som måtte være interesseret i andre alternative spell lists.
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Re: Regler: Alternative versioner af spell lists

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Enig!
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